Ex-OpenAI safety lead David Robinson warns of 'broken' tech culture

When AI models began to escape from testing environments this summer, hacking businesses and governments in the real world, a trickle of employees at top AI companies resigned to warn the public there is a danger right now to humanity. David Robinson is among the most senior tech employees to leave, sounding the alarm on the way out of OpenAI, where he worked for 3 1/2 years. And David Robinson joins us now from New York. Thanks so much for being with us. SIMON: You wrote in The Atlantic that the culture is broken at OpenAI. How so? ROBINSON: I think OpenAI got where it is by being a startup trying out many different AI models. The company calls it iterative deployment.